Beyonce not responsible for her acclaim

[VOLANTIS 16,015]

3 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

She’s pretentious af, and some artists are able to get away with being annoyingly pretentious (Kanye, Madonna, etc.) because they have the musical talents to back them up; someone like Beyoncé who has mediocre musical talent (she has a nice voice and amazing dancing skills, I’ll give you that) could cut back on it. 

When has she been pretentious about her talent or success though? I'm genuinely asking because mostly I see her fans placing her on high pedestals but I've never seen her claim to have created "Album of the millennium" or any such thing really. 

[ALGAYDO 26,370]

2 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said:

When has she been pretentious about her talent or success though? I'm genuinely asking because mostly I see her fans placing her on high pedestals but I've never seen her claim to have created "Album of the millennium" or any such thing really. 

I’m not sure if she’s every vocally states that she thinks she’s a genuis or whatever, but her performances, especially the ones where she dresses up as literally Catholic saints, that one performance (Grammys 2017, I think?) where she was literally the Virgin Mary... like, I’m not religious or anything, but wow. And her pregnancy photo shoots, then one where she poses as the Virgin Mary AGAIN like girl we get it, you’re a goddess and your kids are the second coming of Jesus. And oh god, that one long ass interview where she basically states that she’s not a regular artist, she’s sick of these modern artists pushing out singles after singles and burning out, like okay. We get it. You’re special. That’s cool. Annoying as hell tho. But like I’ve said in my other post, this is all just my personal take on how she presents herself to the public. She may not even feel this way about herself in real life, I know most record labels force their artists to portray certain images of themselves for marketing reasons. So I’m not even hating on Beyoncé AS A PERSON, just the type of image she projects on to the public. Just my two cents ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  

[ALGAYDO 26,370]

9 minutes ago, KingRedd said:

I’m not even going to drag, read, or lay you to rest because it’s a broken record. Beyoncé album coming out soon = GGD hate “opinions” lmao but go off 

Lol this is public forum, dude. This is literally where people come to talk about their opinions. Don’t like it, then don’t log in lol just because you don’t agree with my opinion doesn’t mean I’m hating 

[VOLANTIS 16,015]

3 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

I’m not sure if she’s every vocally states that she thinks she’s a genuis or whatever, but her performances, especially the ones where she dresses up as literally Catholic saints, that one performance (Grammys 2017, I think?) where she was literally the Virgin Mary... like, I’m not religious or anything, but wow. And her pregnancy photo shoots, then one where she poses as the Virgin Mary AGAIN like girl we get it, you’re a goddess and your kids are the second coming of Jesus. And oh god, that one long ass interview where she basically states that she’s not a regular artist, she’s sick of these modern artists pushing out singles after singles and burning out, like okay. We get it. You’re special. That’s cool. Annoying as hell tho. But like I’ve said in my other post, this is all just my personal take on how she presents herself to the public. She may not even feel this way about herself in real life, I know most record labels force their artists to portray certain images of themselves for marketing reasons. So I’m not even hating on Beyoncé AS A PERSON, just the type of image she projects on to the public. Just my two cents ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  

So you think she’s extra? 

Since the OP very clearly compares Gaga and Beyoncé’s artistries... how the hell are we going to call Beyoncé annoyingly pretentious for using religious undertones in hers while we eat up “Goddess of Love” and “Meat Dress” like oxygen. 

[The Surrealist 27,470]

2 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said:

So you think she’s extra? 

Since the OP very clearly compares Gaga and Beyoncé’s artistries... how the hell are we going to call Beyoncé annoyingly pretentious for using religious undertones in hers while we eat up “Goddess of Love” and “Meat Dress” like oxygen. 

Or things like these:

Entire Judas music video, entire Alejandro video. Everything satanic she has ever done.

 

[ALGAYDO 26,370]

Just now, VOLANTIS said:

So you think she’s extra? 

Since the OP very clearly compares Gaga and Beyoncé’s artistries... how the hell are we going to call Beyoncé annoyingly pretentious for using religious undertones in hers while we eat up “Goddess of Love” and “Meat Dress” like oxygen. 

Girl if you think dressing up as the literal Virgin Mary while exposing your whole pregnant belly to the world on a nationally-televised award show is “religious undertones” and comparable to the meat dress or the “goddess of love” thing, then you completely and utterly missed my point  

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30 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

Madonna, etc.) because they have the musical talents

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sskskskksksks you guys make me laugh

you're just jealous bc she can release an album and outstream, outsell and out-quality your faves

Beyonce has the power and the control in everything she does, the process starts with her and ends with her. meanwhile some of your faves say the album is personal yet they have 0 writing credits on the songs about the topic (am i right selena? ). 

but hey, keep on hating her. just makes her even more revelant  

[ALGAYDO 26,370]

1 minute ago, Tyler Henry said:

At least she writes and co-produces her own music, unlike a certain other artist 

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1 minute ago, Tyler Henry said:

musical talents doesn't just mean voice, which she has atleast a decent one. keep trying to bring the queen down i guess 

[VOLANTIS 16,015]

10 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

Girl if you think dressing up as the literal Virgin Mary while exposing your whole pregnant belly to the world on a nationally-televised award show is “religious undertones” and comparable to the meat dress or the “goddess of love” thing, then you completely and utterly missed my point  

I can’t see the point. I know you’re trying to make one. So now it’s to do with her performing while pregnant? Exposing her belly? Dressing as Virgin Mary while pregnant? 

 

Gaga has a literal performance televised of her singing Born This Way with a pregnant belly. 

I’m in no way an informed person. And I’m quite ignorant. But I’m consistent with my ignorance. 

[ALGAYDO 26,370]

7 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said:

I can’t see the point. I know you’re trying to make one. So now it’s to do with her performing while pregnant? Exposing her belly? Dressing as Virgin Mary while pregnant? 

 

Gaga has a literal performance televised of her singing Born This Way with a pregnant belly. 

I’m in no way an informed person. And I’m quite ignorant. But I’m consistent with my ignorance. 

The point wasn’t the belly, and you know it. It was the fact that she was alluding herself to the Virgin Mary and her child to Jesus. I don’t understand how you missed that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

[KyliesChild 16,907]

45 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

She’s pretentious af, and some artists are able to get away with being annoyingly pretentious (Kanye, Madonna, etc.) because they have the musical talents to back them up; someone like Beyoncé who has mediocre musical talent (she has a nice voice and amazing dancing skills, I’ll give you that) could cut back on it. 

They both have teams of writers and producers who make their music for them. That’s where I was getting at. 

If you think Madonna has a better musical ability than Beyoncé you're crazy. She can barely hold a note—especially compared to her. Madonna has songwriting camps just like Madonna and she isn't a great guitarist either so that doesn't make her more talented than Beyoncé in a musical sense. Beyoncé is classically trained and is extremely versatile. She's the most creative pop artist currently when it comes to how she she utilizes her voice lmao 

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8 minutes ago, KyliesChild said:

If you think Madonna has a better musical ability than Beyoncé you're crazy. She can barely hold a note—especially compared to her. Madonna has songwriting camps just like Madonna and she isn't a great guitarist either so that doesn't make her more talented than Beyoncé in a musical sense. Beyoncé is classically trained and is extremely versatile. She's the most creative pop artist currently when it comes to how she she utilizes her voice lmao 

Listen to American Life and come back with a different opinion! Madonna can write beautiful and meaningful songs and she can play guitar and she can dance (id even say Madonnas choreos are way more complex than Beys) and put on a conceptual show.

not hating Beyonce but you don’t need to point a finger to another singer so you can defend your fave 

[Quark 7,016]

51 minutes ago, HausOfAmericano said:

sskskskksksks you guys make me laugh

you're just jealous bc she can release an album and outstream, outsell and out-quality your faves

Beyonce has the power and the control in everything she does, the process starts with her and ends with her. meanwhile some of your faves say the album is personal yet they have 0 writing credits on the songs about the topic (am i right selena? ). 

but hey, keep on hating her. just makes her even more revelant  

Non of what you says disproves my point though.