DrewStevens 5,249 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jed said: no i'm not excusing her behavior I'm just saying a lot of people have a long way to go and we don't know where she is now or how she feels about those comments. I know as a white gay guy I have said racist and misogynistic things but where I am now I know those comments are incredibly problematic and ingrained in our upbringing. All I try to do is grant other people that same.. not understanding but maybe understanding that we don't know where someone is now versus where they were then. Bottom line the word is horrible and no one "gets a pass" i just always make sure my house is clean before I criticize other people for theirs I'm not saying she is a homophobe either. But I do think she doesn't deserve a "gay icon" title. She has done nothing for the LGBT community. Also, there's nothing wrong with calling out people for their ignorance and prejudice even when if you aren't a saint either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 minute ago, DrewStevens said: I'm not saying she is a homophobe either. But I do think she doesn't deserve a "gay icon" title. She has done nothing for the LGBT community. Also, there's nothing wrong with calling out people for their ignorance and prejudice even when if you aren't a saint either. I don't think she deserves that title either. I actually don't think she does either if I remember several interviews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitchimtrying 2,495 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jed said: because she's supposed to represent black culture/rap culture and as a black gay person you have one less advocate than you thought you did, one less representative. It'd be like finding out Gaga said the f word or didn't get bullied growing up, I'm trying to say this is more of a betrayal to them so it hurts more But you don't know my skin color? You wouldn't be able to tell me if I was white, Asian, Hispanic, black etc. You just presumed immediately that I was white and told me 'black community has it harder with lgbt issues so we shouldn't criticize her because she's represents that community through rap music'. Don't presume to know and pull the 'White gays say slurs too' when I'm not even a white gay. that's all im saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 minute ago, bitchimtrying said: But you don't know my skin color? You wouldn't be able to tell me if I was white, Asian, Hispanic, black etc. You just presumed immediately that I was white and told me 'black community has it harder with lgbt issues so we shouldn't criticize her because she's represents that community through rap music'. Don't presume to know and pull the 'White gays say slurs too' when I'm not even a white gay. that's all im saying. no I was never telling you I was telling all of us to remember the intersectionality of racism and homophobia that's all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, bitchimtrying said: But you don't know my skin color? You wouldn't be able to tell me if I was white, Asian, Hispanic, black etc. You just presumed immediately that I was white and told me 'black community has it harder with lgbt issues so we shouldn't criticize her because she's represents that community through rap music'. Don't presume to know and pull the 'White gays say slurs too' when I'm not even a white gay. that's all im saying. also black people never say things like "why are you making this about black lgbt" because they would know I meant that this is gonna kill her lgbt fans of color Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelusionalGaga 29,205 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, lifeasgeorge said: OMG is this real Yes it is. Marina tweeted it as a reaction to the whole feud between Nicki and Mariah Carey on American Idol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Florencio 981 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, bitchimtrying said: Seeing as she said NOTHING about the 49 LGBT people of color murdered at pulse nightclub last year, i'm guessing that she still doesn't give a **** about us 'Fa***ts'. So, no, she hasn't educated herself, otherwise she would have done the right thing and reached out to her LGBT fans/audience, like every other artist did that day. I didn't know that because I don't look up to her when it comes to news. If she didn't do anything about it at least I hope she stopped doing comments like in the video nowadays. Well, too bad I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddMeOnMYSPACE 1,815 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 well, the hip hop community is kind of homophobic so... Glad Nicki change, so lets move on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitchimtrying 2,495 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jed said: also black people never say things like "why are you making this about black lgbt" because they would know I meant that this is gonna kill her lgbt fans of color Honey, go and take a nap, you must be tired as hell trying to bend all this stuff to fit your narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedu24 702 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Where's her ass tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 this is actually so sad to watch, I really like her and her music idk what to think now but I never see male rappers getting dragged on this site even tho they've been homophobic since ever? I mean we should call Nicki out on this but I'm tired of people praising Eminem for example when he's been more than homophobic in the past... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Don't care ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Like, wow, she said ****** and did a limp wrist a few years ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ How shocking and disheartening. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ One Banned Boi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Queen of Being Misunderstood I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 16 minutes ago, Sizzily said: Don't care ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Like, wow, she said ****** and did a limp wrist a few years ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ How shocking and disheartening. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This. I can't tell someone they are wrong for being 'offended' by something this trivial, but there are literally so many more important things to worry about. Choose your battles kids Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baduizm 551 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Besides the whole gay slur thing... I don't understand Nicki's appeal. It's like she has always walked the line between rapper (but she doesn't have bars) and singer (but she doesn't have chops) and she's perpetually stuck in artist limbo lmao. Oh well, different strokes for dif folks. She was aight on Truffle Butter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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