Edonis 25,950 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dorothy Gale said: 2011-2013 backlash and blackout hurt her way more than I initially thought. It started more in 2011. I remember being in high school, my senior year, and random people were like, "ew, it's a gay song" or whatever. I guess it stuck. Now regarding to imagery, that's something else, but the initial and biggest blow was Born This Way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I don't think it has anything to do with Gaga actually. The trend in popular music has changed and Gaga doesn't follow the trends. She starts them. In this case she isn't a part of what's trending now. I still have hope she can rebound back when the trends start to change again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpookyKid 15,079 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 She's gay Life has a hopeful undertone |-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryhanna 3,507 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Well, she doesn't really have a main market anymore. She only really appeals to her existing fanbase, with a little bit of public support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 'Cause she's a woman with a voice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, ryhanna said: Well, she doesn't really have a main market anymore. She only really appeals to her existing fanbase, with a little bit of public support. Good point. She's too dark and mature for kids, and her gay fanbase turns off a lot of straight men, but she doesn't have the huge female fan base like Bey, so she basically only has the gays, but they're being more hipster nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality 65,697 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, Blahwhatever22 said: All it takes really is one big hit and people will start crawling back to her. No shade but PI had no chance of appealing to a large audience, She continues to not follows trends and in turn pushes herself away from the commercial market she set up for herself in the first place. Which, in my opinion, is great. From is business standpoint, yeah, it's a terrible thing, but I'm not stanning Gaga because she follows trends, and anyone who does, is foolish. Gaga is literally the personification of the word "difference". OT: To address the OP, it's also because times are changing. Yes, there are still people, like Beyonce for example, who were popular then, and are still very popular and relevant and "cool" now; however, people come and people go. Gaga's just one of those people who have gone. That's not to say that she's irrelevant, I still think she's a relevant musician—I mean, for God's sake, she's doing the SB Half-time show—but she just isn't at the same popularity she use to be. That could be because she's inherently controversial, and because she's seen as "weird" and "extraordinary", something the GP honestly cannot comprehend too well. 🃏🖤👹 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 11,638 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 There's noting cookie-cutter about Gaga. And for that reason, not for lack of talent or quality or effort, there will always be people who don't appreciate her. Having said that, Ivf noticed that Joanne and her work with Tony have led to a huge increase in respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 23,648 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Cause she doesn't make that annoying generic music with the annoying repeated "oh-woah-oh" vocal loop over an EDM beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Wayne 102 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Sometimes I feel like her own Stans drag her more than her haters to answer your question, she was too overexposed during her debut era ( which was her peak) and she kept alienating her fan base. BTW with supporting the gays, the meltdowns and medicore music during the ARTPOP era and with Joanne I feel like she alienated the gay fan base because she's trying to appeal to middle america. Gag just needs to go back to her roots and serve quality dance pop with great visuals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 6,358 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 BTW purge almost all the gp then ARTPOP tanked and now joanne is tanking...it's no mystery. And she is so messy with promo and timing, the gp does not have patience for her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChrisC said: BTW purge almost all the gp then ARTPOP tanked and now joanne is tanking...it's no mystery. And she is so messy with promo and timing, the gp does not have patience for her Her mv timing and lack of videos killed her streaming power. She needs to start collabing and doing consistent videos to regain it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel 12,525 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, ThisGuyTony said: Cause she doesn't make that annoying generic music with the annoying repeated "oh-woah-oh" vocal loop over an EDM beat. Not me singing this in the Judas way, the Bad Romance way, the Pokerface way, the Scheiße way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaojen 1,571 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Threw general public are basic and ate easily brainwashed. Basic pop beats with little to no lyrical genius or musicality frequently get played and over played. The occasional gem is flocked to by these basics with their lack of judgement. They don't embark out and find their own music. In the beginning Gaga's music was dignified but cleverly masked with a pop candy shell that made it easy for these basics to swallow because they liked the simple beats, but didn't think about the lyrics or references laced within(The Fame). The more creative she gets the less the GP latches on to her talent and onto the basic beats of what the radio puts down their throats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca 1,283 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Dorothy Gale said: I just hate seeing less deserving artists succeed in areas of streaming and GP approval where gaga does not. It seems like artists are more youth oriented than ever, as artists that were starring in Disney/Nickelodeon shows 3 years ago are getting more radio play than Lady ****ing Gaga. It's incredibly frustrating that when I play Gaga songs around my friends they'll like it, but don't know why gaga hasn't been on the radio lately. I just don't know what happened. I just don't understand why people aren't checking for her as much as other artists that aren't good. I'm just feeling disillusioned. She deserves so much more, and if this halftime show doesn't improve this issue I might have a meltdown. Because let's be real, those "less deserving artists" are putting out much better music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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