Beyonce stole "Hold Up" MV concept.

[Curunir 7,510]

45 minutes ago, Cheap thrills said:

 

the way she gets those sheep to baaah at her command 

[Cheap thrills 1,282]

Just now, Curunir said:

the way she gets those sheep to baaah at her command 

 LOL

[Red 87,374]

55 minutes ago, malazam said:

Ha Express Yourself era is coming

She had several Express Yourself moments but Beyoncé is untouchable  

[Brian Ryan 1,468]

51 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said:

This isn't the first time she's been "inspired" by another music video 

*Skip to 2:33 if you hear yourself saying "umm they're not even the same!"

History is important. All of those moves were performed decades ago. I thought the hint Countdown looking like it's straight from the 80s or earlier would be a hint.

[Brian Ryan 1,468]

58 minutes ago, Cheap thrills said:

 

Wearing the same outfit is copying. I've most of copied 100s of people. The model wore it better.

[malazam 15,710]

17 minutes ago, Red said:

She had several Express Yourself moments but Beyoncé is untouchable  

Hmm, 

She is

[LaLuna 12,732]

So when Gaga does something similar to other artists, she's a copycat, but when Bey does it, she's just "inspired" or it's purely coincidental?

Interesting.

 

[crisTEAne 21,059]

1 hour ago, bayonse said:

little monsters especially have no rights to talk about stealing ideas

there is a difference between being inspired, paying homage, and stealing.

take a look at this:

1 hour ago, PunkTheFunk said:

This isn't the first time she's been "inspired" by another music video 

*Skip to 2:33 if you hear yourself saying "umm they're not even the same!"

now which category does that instance fall into? 

[Bear 7,515]

I'm not sure to be honest. She has a lot of videos that are inspired/references/copies of other videos, but this doesn't seem to be one of them IMO.

and if it is, I highly doubt this is Beyonce's fault though, and is more likely to be part of the creative team around her.

[NCgaga 4,145]

Beyonce's creative team isn't actually creative. They have been stealing(not inspired by) ideas for years. Single ladies video was also a blatant rip off. But the beehive is so sheepish and delusional, they will never admit to it. 

[christinahoney 383]

This isn't the first time that she's copied other people's work, so you be the judge.

[StrawberryBlond 13,283]

Wow, total rip-off. This isn't the first time Beyonce's done this and it won't be the last. She's also stolen live performance ideas. But she's also not the only one who's done this. Big name artists have been stealing various concepts from unknown artists for decades because they know no one will look into it and they'll never be found out. But now, thanks to the internet, we can find this stuff and call them out on it. This isn't even a homage, it's pure stealing.

2 hours ago, TheCountess said:

So when Gaga does something similar to other artists, she's a copycat, but when Bey does it, she's just "inspired" or it's purely coincidental?

Interesting.

 

THIS. Even Gaga's own fans are too harsh on her. Thing is, a homage is best done for something that everyone knows about. Gaga doing her hair in a high ponytail and wearing a cone bra, for example, isn't stealing, it's a homage because everyone knows that iconic Madonna imagery, so if that immediate connection is there, there's no stealing, just homage. But taking work from an unknown artist that no one will have connections too and therefore, will have no associations with, and passing it off as your own creation, that's stealing. It's like how people won't get an inside joke. If only you are aware of a reference, no one else will understand it, therefore, you could pass it off as your own without any trouble, if you wanted to. If you still want to do a homage in that case, cite your inspiration. But if it's not cited in order to educate the 99% who don't know about it, it's stealing.

[Shipper 12,765]

4 hours ago, Pablo said:

haven't seen either video but there isn't anything wrong with paying homage to past works. Gaga does this all the time.

Got this book and I agree that there is nothing new under the sun. Just something somebody refocused and reframed.

Whether she stole it or not, she still made the new version hers. 

[Glory 2,247]

At least she's doing it from niche artists and is discreet about it 

[PunkTheFunk 121,506]

23 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

THIS. Even Gaga's own fans are too harsh on her. Thing is, a homage is best done for something that everyone knows about. Gaga doing her hair in a high ponytail and wearing a cone bra, for example, isn't stealing, it's a homage because everyone knows that iconic Madonna imagery, so if that immediate connection is there, there's no stealing, just homage. But taking work from an unknown artist that no one will have connections too and therefore, will have no associations with, and passing it off as your own creation, that's stealing. It's like how people won't get an inside joke. If only you are aware of a reference, no one else will understand it, therefore, you could pass it off as your own without any trouble, if you wanted to. If you still want to do a homage in that case, cite your inspiration. But if it's not cited in order to educate the 99% who don't know about it, it's stealing.

 

To put it in an analogy: 

Gaga makes a collage with cut-outs from well known works of art -- da Vinci's "Mona Lisa"; Botticelli's "The Birth of Venus"; Van Gogh's "Starry Night".

Beyonce takes a painting from an unknown art school grad, puts it in a nice frame, and claims it as her own until someone points out that she didn't actually paint it.